Communicating with the Other Side

A New Movie Centers on a Technological Method for Contacting Departed Spirits—Could Truth Be Stranger than Fiction?

It is entirely possible that behind the perception of our senses, worlds are hidden of which we are unaware.

—Albert Einstein


The age-old human desire to solve the riddle of death remains with us even in this age of sophisticated science and high technology. Since the dawn of time, it seems, humans have puzzled and agonized over the abrupt termination of life, sensing that something as complex and unfinished as a human life could not possibly end in an instant, and be thereafter wiped clean from the chronicles of time, commemorated only by a line on a tombstone and the dim memories of surviving friends and family. It is easily the single most important concern that drives religious affiliation, with the differing views thereof basically distinguishing one religion from another.

And this may possibly be the reason that, until the 19th century, scientists had not really tackled the problem. They had taken the position that the answers lie in the realm of belief and religion, and it is not a subject of concern to science. All that began to change with the emergence of the metaphysical movement in the late 19th century. Not content with vague reassurances of heaven and paradise, and not intimidated by the terrible threats of limbo and hell, both scientists and laymen, began to probe the boundaries between the living and the dead.


Seances and Scientists

In the late 19th century, spiritualism burst upon the world scene and quickly became the subject of sensational headlines. Certain individuals claimed to be “mediums” capable of communicating with the deceased. They brought messages of hope and comfort from the other world to grieving relatives in sessions known as “seances.” Such famous mediums as Gladys Osborne Leonard, Arthur Ford, Leonore Piper, Daniel Douglas Home, Helen Duncan, the Eddy Brothers, and more recently, John Edward (Crossing Over) have served to convince even skeptics that the dead do truly survive, and that communication with the other world is possible. While mediumship has provided what some consider rather incredible communications over the years, it tends to be inconsistent and sporadic and messages are frequently colored by the medium’s own psyche. After his death, well-known psychic investigator Frederick F.W. Myers described it from the other side, through a medium, as being like, “Standing behind a sheet of frosted glass which blurs sight and deadens sound dictating feebly to a reluctant and somewhat obtuse secretary.”

Many important scientists involved with electronics innovation believed that some form of reliable communication with the dead was possible. Thomas Alva Edison experimented with devices for contacting the departed. He believed that there could be a radio frequency somewhere between short wave and the long wave spectrum that could be used to communicate with spirits. Sir Oliver Lodge was a radio pioneer and the first person to transmit a wireless message in 1894. A professor of physics at 30, he was knighted and made a Fellow of the Royal Society in 1902. Lodge, understanding that radio waves were propagated through the ether, concluded that the dead perhaps populated this invisible etheric world. Guglielmo Marconi, who is credited with the invention of the wireless, was reportedly working on a way to communicate with the dead at the time of his own death in 1937.


Bird Calls from Beyond

But despite their belief in the possibility of communicating with the dead, none of these eminent scientists was able to demonstrate a way of accomplishing the connection. Then, on the 12th of June 1959, a breakthrough event may have occurred accidentally through a man with absolutely no scientific credentials. Friedrich Jurgensen, a Swedish portrait painter, documentary filmmaker, and bird-watcher, had set up a tape recorder and a microphone in his garden in an attempt to record the voice of a chaffinch. When he listened to the playback he was startled to hear a masculine voice interrupting the chaffinch, speaking in Norwegian, and talking about “nightly bird voices” accompanied by a chorus of different bird voices. This event launched Jurgensen on continued experiments and soon he was getting longer communications, some of them mentioning his name and discussing his work. On one recording he heard the voice of his own deceased mother calling him “Kostulit,” her affectionate name for him. In 1967, he published, in German, his book about the phenomena, titled Speech-Radio with the Deceased: Practical Establishment of Contact with the Beyond. Unfortunately, the book never made it into an English edition. Jurgensen remained fascinated with the phenomenon and continued his investigations for another twenty years until his death in 1987.

Dr. Konstantin Raudive became acquainted with Jurgensen’s work while studying philosophy and psychology in Uppsala, Sweden. Raudive, the same age as Jurgensen, was born in Latvia, but studied all over Europe. He was already well known for his literary and philosophical works when he met Jurgensen in 1965. He too became so fascinated with the Voice Phenomena that he made it his life’s work. He basically used Jurgensen’s technique and obtained results very similar to those of Jurgensen. His recordings, like Jurgensen’s, were filled with disturbing background noise, but his messages were shorter and came in seven different languages, sometimes several on the same recording. He never doubted that the voices were from the dead. He and his wife Zenta eventually wrote a book titled From the Inaudible to the Audible, also in German, containing 170 pages of voice samples taken from his claimed collection of 72,000 voices, all carefully catalogued. The rest of the book, nearly 200 pages, consists of letters, testimonies and comments from scientists, technicians, psychologists and theologians who describe in detail the recording sessions they had attended with Dr. Raudive. An English language version of the book was re-titled Breakthrough: An Amazing Experiment in Electronic Communication with the Dead and was published by Taplinger in 1971. This was the pioneering work that began the movement that has come to be known as EVP, or Electronic Voice Phenomena. Raudive died in 1974, well before Jurgensen, at the age of 65, but his wife continued his work.



In the mid-1970s, Sarah Wilson Estep read the book Handbook of Psi Discoveries (Berkeley Publishing, 1975) by Ostrander and Schroeder and was intrigued by the two chapters in the book on EVP. This launched her on a career as a psychic investigator and she set about trying to record voices with “an old tape recorder, a microphone that whistled at inconvenient times, and headphones in which the right earpiece was dead.” She devoted four hours a day to recording sessions, determined to stick it out for seven days. If she had no results after that, she would give it up.

On the sixth day, utterly bored with asking the same tired questions and getting nothing, she impulsively asked, “What is your world like?” When she played the tape back she was startled to hear a clear voice say, “Beauty.” That was all the incentive she needed to continue her investigations. Her book, Voices of Eternity (Ballantine Books, 1988), is the entire record of her EVP research and leaves little doubt that she communicated with the dead. She says, “Now, twelve years and 24,000 messages later, I am convinced that I am in communication with entities from other dimensions.” This book has become the American classic on the subject, and still functions as a textbook for other researchers.

Sarah Estep also founded the American Association of Electronic Voice Phenomena, or AA-EVP, which acts as an informational clearing house for EVP investigators. In the first “News Journal” of the Association, she says, “Established in 1982 to provide objective evidence that we survive death in an individual conscious state.”

Typically, the messages obtained using EVP are short, sometimes grammatically incorrect, and frequently off the subject. They are very similar to the types of messages received through the Ouija Board, and are not nearly up to the quality of the communications received through mediums. It has been found that some sort of background noise increases the quality of the recording. Most researchers now turn on a fan, or they tune a radio between stations to static, keeping the volume on low.

Some use recordings of “crowd babble” preferably in a foreign language. This is referred to as “white noise.” The astral person speaking then uses the white noise and shapes the sounds into words. Headphones are highly recommended for playback, to clearly distinguish the voices from the noise. Newer techniques involve computers. The sounds are recorded through the tape device directly into computer files, either WAV or MP3. Then they can be “cleaned up” using editing software. The most popular editing package is “Cool Edit,” which permits functions such as amplification and filtering, and eliminates the white noise.


Instrumental Transcommunication (ITC)

Recognizing these severe limitations, some EVP researchers knew there had to be a better way—a way to improve, or even perfect, electronic communication with the world of the dead. They began using other types of electronic equipment including radios, televisions, telephones and computers directly. In 1985 German EVP researcher, Claus Schreiber made a fantastic discovery! Upon advice from his otherworldly contact via EVP, he aimed his video camera at a black and white television set and fed the output of the camera back into the input of the television. A “churning mist” appeared on the screen, and out of the mist spirit pictures gradually formed. He was astounded to see images of deceased family members, and Austrian notables like Albert Einstein, King Ludwig II, and movie star Romy Schneider (see John Chambers article “Live from Heaven” in Atlantis Rising #20, for a full account of this contact).

An image of his own daughter Karin, who had died at a young age, came on the screen dressed in a dark blouse and a white skirt. Schreiber began consulting with researchers Jules and Maggy Harsch-Fischbach in Luxembourg and comparing notes and results. The Harsch-Fischbachs had set up a receiving complex incorporating computers and fax machines that became known as the CETL lab. In January of 1988, Schreiber died of a heart attack, and almost immediately started sending messages and pictures back to the CETL lab. He sent back clear pictures of himself, his new home, and others including his newfound friend on the other side, Romy Schneider!

In the early eighties George and Jeannette Meek from Franklin, North Carolina, working with gifted psychic/scientist Bill O’Neill, developed a device they called the Spiricom to communicate with the other side. In 1990, Jeannette Meek died and shortly thereafter set about communicating with her husband via the CETL Lab.

On February 21, 1991, the Harsch-Fischbachs came home to find their computer turned on and a long letter from Jeannette Meek to her husband on the hard disk. In the letter, she included insignificant details of their life together that only he would know, in order to prove conclusively that it was she who had written the letter.

On November 21, 1992, she sent back a perfectly clear picture of herself through the CETL computer, which she claimed was from the “fifth level.” Also in the picture is her young daughter Nancy Carol who had died as an infant, and a man who she identified as having been American film producer Hal Roach. Then on January 27, 1994, the telephone rang in George Meek’s office in North Carolina. The caller identified himself as Konstantin Raudive! Raudive said, “George, my friend, at last we succeeded in contacting you. Jeannette is beside me, and she wants to give you all her love. This is the first contact you get from us. I suppose that you can hear me?” Meek responded, “I can hear you very well. Very plainly.”

Then Raudive said, “Fine! So, this is the beginning of a new story, a new chapter, George. You are a very good friend of ours, even if we haven’t met. We will continue this. This is the first bridge we have succeeded to build to the States. Mark was contacted, and I must interrupt now.”


Group Timestream and “Technician”

The “Mark” referred to in that conversation was Mark Macy, an American ITC researcher (see William Eigles’ story, “Sound and Pictures from the Other Side,” in AR Issue # 13). One week earlier, on January 21, an event occurred that made Alexander Graham Bell’s first phone call pale by comparison. Macy had also received a phone call from Raudive. When he picked up the phone he heard a man with a deep voice, and a thick European accent. He said, “Good morning, Mark. This is Konstantin Raudive. We have succeeded in building a new bridge to the States. You are the first to be contacted by this means.”

Macy was ecstatic over this achievement. In the next several weeks, three other American researchers received phone calls from Raudive: Sarah Estep, Dr. Walter Uphoff, President of New Frontiers Center, and Hans Heckmann, a colleague of George Meek. Raudive, it seems, still dedicated to this project in death as in life, had joined an R&D operation on the other side intended specifically to link up to the primary EVP and ITC researchers in the physical world! This is referred to as “Group Timestream.” Macy says that this organization is “a group of more than a thousand spirit beings dedicated to the task of opening the veil by improving communications between our world and theirs.”

It turned out that Group Timestream had been operating since the mid-eighties in Europe, and had already channeled some incredible transmissions from the world of spirit to ITC European researchers. Timestream was being directed and supervised by a spirit being who preferred to be known simply as “Technician.” He provided the guidance and spiritual protection for the project. Protection, he explained, was definitely necessary since low-level astral beings were continually trying to sabotage the operation, and had, on at least one occasion, succeeded in shutting it down.

According to Swiss parapsychologist Dr. Theo Locher, author of Breakthroughs in Technical Spirit Communication (Continuing Life Research, 1997) Technician spoke in a high-pitched, computer-like monotone voice and displayed “extraordinary knowledge of physics, mathematics, astronomy, electronics and the natural sciences… He is multilingual and has great knowledge of the past and the future. He was never incarnated, is not human and is assigned to planet earth. A sort of unselfish love seems to emanate from him.” Some of the pictures that had been sent back to the CETL lab through Timestream were truly extraordinary. Still shots of easily identifiable famous departed people looking much younger, beautiful landscapes, temples, animals and houses were all sharp and clear.



By the year 2000, dissonance had arisen within the ranks of ITC researchers due primarily to the skepticism of scientists. Mark Macy says, “As a result of the dissonance, the contact field became cloudy, our spirit friends were unable to come through into our world and work with our equipment, and the miracles of ITC virtually dried up. Phone calls, faxes, detailed computer images, and texts from spirit friends, with messages of great depth and import, have not been reported from any researchers since the year 2000, to the best of my knowledge.” And so ended a fifteen-year period of progress in human understanding of death and the afterlife. Fortunately, the record of those communications between worlds still exists for our study. Perhaps, after a time of incorporating the miracles of that era into the mass consciousness, we will be ready for the next great leap to a time when the rickety trestle put in place by these pioneers will become a six-lane “Golden Gate” bridge between the two worlds.

Watch for the new motion picture about EVP, White Noise, to be released by Universal on January 7, 2005. Characterized as a “paranormal thriller,” starring Michael Keaton, it is the story of a man who is drawn into a strange and dangerous world when he begins to get EVP messages from his dead wife. Produced by Paul Brooks (Gold Circle Films), executive producer of My Big Fat Greek Wedding, and based on consultation with Tom and Lisa Butler, the co-directors of AA-EVP, the movie will introduce to the public the concept and the promise of EVP and ITC. To watch the movie trailer, go to www.white For more information on EVP, go to, and for ITC, see


Editorial Comment:

The subject of the above article, though compelling, raises some concerns, which Atlantis Rising would like to express, for the record.

This publication does not endorse or promote mediumship and associated practices. It is our considered opinion that people run substantial risks—spiritually and otherwise—when they attempt to use their faculties to host the spirits of the dead. The evidence shows, we believe, that after leaving the physical plane—the domain in which many disembodied spirits find themselves and the closest to this one (thus the easiest to contact)—is essentially an astral debris field. We also believe it is a place in which many such beings are confined by their own momentums of misqualified energy (unfulfilled desires, etc.) and in which they suffer greatly. To open the portals of physical perception to such realms is to expose oneself to many virtually infectious and toxic influences, which can, to say the least, be very unhealthy. Most such influences, despite their potential for destruction, are quite subtle and seldom perceived by neophytes.

Having said this, we feel it is okay and appropriate to report on interesting scientific research, which validates the existence of the afterlife, so long as one is careful to point out the hazards present in forays into this field. This is, we feel, similar to the kind of contamination early medical researchers encountered in going into plague zones. Unfortunately, the higher spheres of the afterlife, to which most reliable spiritual teachers say we should aspire, are not so easily accessed by cruder methods, scientific or otherwise.

The natural boundaries which limit casual awareness of the lower astral realms generally operate as a protective garment—a kind of surgical mask—which must be fully respected by any report on this field. Unfortunately, many who dabble in these areas are unprepared to handle the significant challenges represented. While saints may be required to master such things and to take on the tests involved on behalf of the rest of us, their doing so certainly represents considerable sacrifice on their part, which is just one more reason we are all so indebted to them.



CAPTIONS: Video Image of Deceased Investigator Friedrich Jürgenson. Michael Keaton in scenes from the Forthcoming Universal Picture, White Noise.

By Len Kasten